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NCAA Recruiting Rules for Volleyball Explained – Transfers to Freshman

NCAA Recruiting Rules for Volleyball Explained – Transfers to Freshman


– Hey guys, on this episode, we’re gonna get into depth with
all of the recruiting rules, including the transfer
rules in this registry that has caused quite a bit of commotion and a lot of questions for
people throughout the industry. So, Sam, if you wanna… take it away.
– Take it away. I think I’m gonna start off
with the recruiting registry. Officially, it went live on October 15th so it’s been live now for
approximately 48 hours. In talking to our coaching friends, I think that directory has
totally blown up, quite frankly. I’ve heard that there’s over,
within a 48 hour period, there are over 400 athletes that are already on the registry. Now, that’s all sports. Let me be clear about that. That’s all sports. There are obviously division one athletes and there’s even division two
athletes that are on that. So, basically, those student athletes in all those sports across the board have basically put themselves out there to try to find a new home,
for whatever reason, okay? I think what’s important
from a volleyball standpoint, with this registry, is
what does that mean? You know, if you decide
to go on this registry, what could that potentially mean for you as a student athlete? There will be… And a lot of these decisions
are institution based but I can tell you, and
I know this for a fact, from, again, talking to people, is that if you are unhappy
at your current home and you choose to go on this registry, and you’re on a scholarship, there’s a high possibility that that scholarship could
end right then and there. Right then and there. So what does that mean? That means no access to, you know, academic support services. No more access to your athletic trainer. No more access to your strength
and conditioning coach. It might also mean you might
have to turn in every piece of equipment you ever
got at that institution and you have to turn that in as well. – I just want to add, ’cause we talked a
little bit about medical, and we actually have a student athlete that contacted us and is now
going to be on the registry. She’s not on it yet. But her medical was already revoked and so, she needed to get medication that the institution
had subscribed to her. – Correct. – And couldn’t get it for her test, for mid-terms this week. – Sure.
– So I thought, I mean, that’s a scary thing. I think, just, understanding
the repercussions and making sure that
everybody’s on the same page in terms of communiciation. – For sure, so these
are the questions, like, you need to make sure you find out. The other piece, like I said, where your scholarship
could potentially end. If you go in and register… Like if you go on the registry
as of today, October 17th, your scholarship could
come to an end today. And so, what does that mean? That means, you would have to pay that institution the
rest of your tuition bill for the rest of the semester, something you might not
have been ready to pay for, quite honestly. So, what I think is gonna happen is you’re gonna see that
kids, quite frankly, if they find out what
institution they’re at and if they’re going by those rules, are gonna maybe wait
longer to see what happens and getting on this registry so they can still continue to
have those support services and have that scholarship paid for. It is possible, if you go on the registry, your scholarship could be good through the end of the semester, maybe even the whole year. That’s a discussion you’re gonna have with the staff and the
administration, quite frankly. So, before you go on this registry, if you’re really thinking about this, I think it’s important to find
out all of that information because it’s gonna be
institutionally based. The other thing I wanna mention, like, it’s great for the student athletes to be able to go on this registry, have their information out there and not have to go through that, you know, the process of
whether I’m gonna get a release, whether I’m gonna get a
permission to contact. Totally understand that. But please be aware
that if you are looking to still go to a school
within the same conference that you’re at, that might mean you might
still have to sit out a year. So, again, that’ll be an
institutional decision. That’ll be a conference decision so that doesn’t automatically
give you that opportunity to go to another school within conference because, quite frankly, if I’m coaching and I don’t want to give up somebody to a competitor in my
conference, quite frankly. So please be aware that
there’s that possibility of sitting out a year
to go with the transfer within another institution in a conference could very well be true. – Within the ACC, at least
at one of the institutions in the ACC that we have
a client at currently, because she was not on scholarship, she can actually transfer
within conference, and not have to sit out. That’s what their
compliance reported today. I think a lot of this remains to be seen because, I feel like we’re getting so many conflicted details from everybody that we’re talking to in the industry and it’s a little bit of a chaos right now.
– I think it is… It’s chaotic. I could use another two words
but I’ll choose not too. But I think this is a learning
experience for everybody and again, it’s just not volleyball. It’s every sport that this affects in how this is all gonna operate and what does that mean, you know? And figuring out the kinks with the NCAA, with the schools, with the conferences, different levels, whether it’s power five, you know, the autonomy legislation. You go along with the power five, you choose not to go
along with the power five. There are a lot of questions and there’s gonna be a lot of
interps and a lot of things so what I’m here to preach
is that you really need to do your due diligence. You get on this registry
and you think life is easy about possibly transferring. I’m here to tell you, and
Kara’s gonna say the same thing, it’s not. There’s still a lot of work. There’s still a lot of
homework you must do to figure out that everything’s gonna go in the right direction to
help you find that next home. And, your last home, and the right fit at the end of the day,
for whatever’s going on. – We’ve been harping a
lot about the importance of learning how to
communicate with your coaches, learning how to communicate as a whole and this is not something
you should just drop on your coach. You should not go to
compliance, request the form, have everything filled out and then put it in front of
your coach to sign off on. I would highly recommend
that if is any sort of grief or you understand that
there’s a personality conflict between you and your coach, I would highly encourage you to go and sit down with that
coach and talk to them about everything that
you see that’s going on. There’s always two sides to everything and sometimes, if you sit down
and you ask certain questions and you talk about how you’re feeling, often times, a coach will open up and give you their perspective and as you walk away and
really reflect on it, it may impact how you want to
move forward with the program. So, what I would highly recommend is not walking into compliance, not having them go ahead
and fill out that form and just dropping it
in front of your coach and having it be, like, out of nowhere. Really learn how to communicate. You’re an adult now, you know? If you’re watching this and you’re thinking about transferring, more than likely, you’re in that 18 to 22, to 24-year-old range and you’re an adult and learning how to
communicate is so important, not just now, but for the
rest of your existence. This is a career and
you made a career choice so you need to ask
questions about whether you can persevere and finish it out strong or if you’re looking to
go in another direction, at least have an honest
conversation with yourself and with your coaching staff. Don’t just cry home to your parents, who are more than likely gonna… You know, they’re gonna be
great, they’re gonna love you and they want to support you and they want to hear everything, but you don’t want them to
just only hear your side of the story and then for that to ultimately impact your decision. I think it’s important that
you’re opening up the lines of communication here, in talking to the whole coaching staff. I mean, you were a coach. Wouldn’t you have appreciated that? – I think that is huge. I mean, that’s a life skillset. You will have to talk to
somebody in the future at a job about something
that’s going well, not going well. You need to have that discussion
at the end of the day. ‘Cause here’s the other thing. You go through this transfer process and you get on this registry and people start reaching out
to you about their interest. Like, people are gonna call
and they’re gonna find out. So, they’re gonna want to know things and whether they call your current coach or anybody else that
you’ve ever worked with. It’s gonna happen. That’s kind of the uncontrollable for you. I think it’s really, really important to go in and have that discussion, as Kara just said, with
the coaching staff. And, in addition, once all that happens, you gotta take care of your
controllables in all this. You have to take care of your school work. Take care of your school work, okay? You still have responsibility to be fit and taking care of that
piece no matter what. So, there’s still
controllables in all this that you can’t just let
slide because you might have to make a decision to go somewhere else. That’s super, super important
in all this as well. – So, let’s switch gears.
– Sure. – We’re getting a lot of insight, a lot of feedback from families
that are asking questions about the recruiting rules
and wanting to understand when you can contact
division one programs, when they can actually
communicate with you. Division two, division three, NAIA, which, I always refer
to as the rebels, but… (laughing) Let’s talk about that. Let’s talk about division one. – Sure, so right now, at
division one, obviously, we’re in this new academic year where all those new recruiting rules have kinda gone into effect. What does that mean, specifically? If you are a junior or
senior in high school, okay, starting September one of this year, if you were a junior, the division one college coaches can reach out to you via email. They can call you. They can text you all they want. That also means you can go
onto campus for a visit, an unofficial visit or
maybe, even as a junior, they could bring you in
on an official visit. That’s not gonna happen all the time. It will happen at some places but understand that there is the potential for an official visit as well. If you are a freshman or a sophomore, or still babies, as I like to refer to, you can contact those
coaches all you want. Please do. However, they will not be
able to respond back to you. So that is why it’s important that whoever you put in that
email when you’re reaching out, that third party
providers, we like to say, is going to get back to you with the information when
those coaches reach out. That is super, super important that they’re reliable and will get that information to you
as soon as possible. If you choose to go visit a college campus at the division one level, you are free to do so on your own dime. Go to admissions, register
for a tour, go check it out. Remember, as a freshman and sophomore, you are no longer able to interact with any of the coaching
staff for that sport. Volleyball, kay? If they have a game that
night, can you go to the game? Absolutely. Absolutely. Go watch their match. But you will be doing
from a tour standpoint through the admissions department. That’s what needs to happen
at this time in point. You’re also going to start seeing at the division one level, a lot of these clinics are
popping up this semester. I’ve already seen. Kara and I have seen a ton of these. We’ve also been talking with
a lot of our coaching friends at the D1 level who said
we’re gonna be having clinics and one day camps starting in January. Why? Because the new recruiting
calendar is in effect. So starting on December first, it’s basically quiet period for D1. And guess what? They cannot be on the road till President’s Day weekend, right? Everybody’s favorite weekend of volleyball ’cause there’s so many great tournaments going on around the country. But that is basically
two and a half months where the division one coaches can’t be on the road recruiting. So to help with that, they’re
gonna be offering some clinics and camps in order for people to go visit and have a chance to work with the staff and visit and see, maybe,
experience a basketball game that’s going on at their place. So, you know, whatever. – One word. Just go. Go. You have to go. You have to take advantage
of getting to these camps, interacting with these coaches, seeing how their coaching
staff works with each other. You know, do the campus
tour with the coaches. That’s the only way, by the way, that you can
– Correct. – do a campus tour with the coaches is at these camps.
– Correct. – And it’s an incredible opportunity. Most of them are pretty
inexpensive that we’re seeing. You know, some where in
the 50 to 100 dollar range. Some of them might be a little bit more ’cause their contracting
with outside coaches that are having to come in
and provide support as well. But, gosh, I’m such a huge fan of getting in the gym and
interacting with these coaches because, I’ve we talked about transfers at the beginning of the conversation and people getting it wrong, you know, really, educating yourself, that is your controllable right now, is to get in the gym and interact and have an opportunity to see
if it’s a good fit for you. – Absolutely. And if you are looking to play
at the division one level, you still have to
maintain that consistency and that persistency
of your communication. Trust me, they want to hear from you. And even though they can’t be out on the road until the middle of February, there gonna be doing
their jobs and prepping because once they hit the road
int he middle of February, they’re all gonna be gone on the road, quite frankly, until the end of April. – Yeah, it’s a little gnarly, as are we. – Yes.
(laughing) We’re living out of a
suitcase, but that’s okay. (laughing) – When it comes to communication, I just wanna throw out that
our book is coming out. Written a book and it’s coming out at the beginning of 2019 and in it, we actually have
a communication schedule that Sam and I had worked on together about how often you should
be reaching out to programs and how you should be proactively
communicating with them and just tips that you can
add, like certain things. Checking your university athlete profile and things of that nature. Just a little… Little promo action there. – That’s a good intro for me, into the book, right?
– All right. So, division two. – Yeah, so division two
basically, right now, they don’t have much has changed for them, which is awesome. In fact, I think the D2’s and the D3’s and the NAIA coaches
are gonna love the fact that they have that whole January
through the beginning part of February to be at any tournament or any gym by themselves, quite frankly. So, you know, division two, obviously, when you’re a junior, starting June 15th, that date is different for D2 than division one, they’re allowed to contact you, call you, text you, email
you, all they want as well. So, I know the D2
coaches appreciate having that kinda early up from the D1’s and again, they’re gonna be
out proactively recruiting and in these tournaments so for those of you that
are looking at the D2’s and the D3’s and the NAIA’s, please take advantage of this opportunity just as they’re going
to with the tournaments that they’re gonna be going to as well. – Just to clarify, ’cause it might have been a little confusing, Sam was saying June 15th
going into your junior year so it’s after you complete
your sophomore year, on that June 15th date, that that interaction can take place. – Correct. – You know, take advantage of
your recruiting coordinators at your clubs or if you decide
to contract with somebody to help you in recruiting. Ensure that you’re
including their information and your emails, your coaching staff. Put those people in even in the signature so that college coaches know that they can reach out to them. I’m with you. I think the division two coaches
are gonna eat up the fact that they’ve got a six
week head start in 2019 over all the D1 coaches and you know, for them,
when you’re competing, especially for those unsigned seniors, I think there’s gonna be so
many unsigned seniors this year that are gonna feel really under pressure and probably in a freakout mode because that’s a really long time to go without having an opportunity to be evaluated without going to a camp. – Sure. And remember at the D3 level, those coaches, once you are technically considered a
high school student athlete, they can reach back out to you and they can email you, which is great. Again, we always talk about the
social media aspect of that. If you really have an
interest in a certain program that you should be liking their Insta or their Facebook page
or their Twitter account. That’s super, super important. D1’s, D2’s, right? They can like and retweet,
legally, per the NCAA. Remember, at the division 3 level, the NCAA does not allow those coaches to like or retweet so when
you like something of theirs or you post something, that coach definitely
would love to hit that, you know, the heart button. They’re just not allowed to and I think that’s important
to remind everybody. – Yeah, because it’s not
them not showing the love. There’s a rule that’s preventing them from showing the love.
– Correct. – The NAIA, I like to call them the rebels ’cause they just don’t
have the same kind of rules that everybody else does.
– They don’t. But listen, they want everybody
just like anybody else and, you know, we did a
little odd talk on them not too long ago to show the love. Because there’s a lot of
great volleyball out there. We talk about this fit piece and there’s a lot of great
schools at the NAIA level that are the right fit for a lot of people so I think it’s really,
really important to… You know, we talk about
opening up your search and not kinda just being tunnel vision but opening things up to
a lot of opportunities because there’s a lot
of high level volleyball being played at that level and I think it’s super, super important to consider them through this process. – As you’re starting your journey, one thing that we recommend
is literally just… When we say cast a wide net, you know, take 20 in each division. I know that sounds outrageous, but truly…
– Do so. – Do it, because if you
don’t know where you stand or what kind of program
you’re gonna fit in, if you cast that wide of a net, you’re going to get
feedback from these coaches and they’re going to say something. There’s going to be some comment if you’re sending out 80 emails, you’re gonna get some feedback whether it’s we’ve already finished in your recruiting class, you’re not strong enough
to compete for our program. You know, might hear some of that and that’s okay to hear. That rejection is just for you, an opportunity to go, okay,
I reached too high here, now I’m gonna move onto another division or another slew of programs so being open-minded… We’re both a huge fan…
– Very much so. – Of just casting a wide net and for us, when we’re interacting
with our own clientele, we stress the important
of finding a program where you can make an impact and where you’re gonna be able to go in and compete and really
contribute to the team because if not, it’s very, very difficult to be that player on the bench. So getting off on a
tangent, as I do sometimes. – Sometimes it happens. – So, back to the rules. Pretty much covered everything from division one, two,
three, NAIA, the transfers. Hopefully that helps you and
provides a little more insight and we’ll continue to report to… – Correct, correct. And I think that’s important. If you have questions about that, listen, I’m kinda that rule nerd. I’ve always, like… That a compliance piece is
always been super important, obviously, when you’re coaching and I like it and I wanna know
what’s going on in this world so if you have questions or
need further clarification, you can always reach out to us and we’ll be happy to get back with you with any info to help you with
the decision making process. – That’s your chance for your plug. – Yeah, so you can always reach me at [email protected] Kara always talks about her Insta. I do have an Insta as well. – I tag you on everything! – I know, she tags me so I’m just letting you know too, you can always direct
message me on Insta as well. – Well now you have to say your name. – I think it’s coachsamwol23. I changed it to sync it with
my Twitter account, by the way, so I was on the same when
Kara’s tagging everything. – She’s an active Twitter-er. – I try to be. – [Kara And Sam] Yes. – And you love your quotes. – I do love our quotes. – Okay, so, as always, you can hit me up on
Instagram @vballrecruiter. You can visit us on our website at myrecrutingsolutions.com. Email [email protected] and as always, we want to hear from you. If you found this helpful, please, tag your friends, tag your family. As my friend Seth likes to say, share it with your dog, we’ll
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